A diferença entre antigo e moderno
é a diferença entre tristeza e depressão.
é a diferença entre tristeza e depressão.
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Onde é que colocarias a melancolia?
Eu considero importante saber distinguir tristeza de depressão. Não são a mesma coisa.
Há muitas situações, pensamentos e acontecimentos que nos deixam tristes - macambuzios...
A depressão é um estado psiquico, um disturbio afectivo com uma série de sintomas - em que a tristeza é só um deles - que afecta a vida das pessoas ao ponto de as impedir de sair da cama: ou seja, impede-as de funcionar...
Mas isto era conversa para uma noite tagarela...
Ainda podiamos entrar na questão das diferenças pessoais: há pessoas mais alegres, mais desconfiadas, mais tristonhas, mais agressivas e por aí fora...
Tudo isto se resume a uma frase:Não podemos por tudo no mesmo saco.
"A vista do feio torna-nos maus e sombrios" - dizia o outro...
Há que a prender a nadar em seco - digo eu.
aprender
Cara Alfineta, creio que o caro amigo Algazel fez precisamente esssa distinção, identificando a macambuzisse com o antigo e o distúrbio afectivo com o moderno, propondo uma análise psico-histórica. Concorde-se ou não, fê-la. E agora pode cantar: «Ai Algazel, Algazedo, dá-me uma gargalhada e sai do degredo»...
Arpão, proponho-lhe, então, agora a sua definição psico-histórica da pós-modernidade.
E não estava a discordar do Algazel, estava apenas a distinguir tristeza de depressão, (porque, como julgo que deve saber, há quem os confunda).
Aguardo, ansiosa, a sua definição psico-histórica da pós-modernidade, (imagino que já tenha pensado nisso, ahah! :P)
Primeiro vai ter que me dizer o que é isso da pós-modernidade, cara amiga. É o que vem depois da modernidade? É um upgrade, tipo modernidade 1.1? É última versão da modernidade? A nova?
Pela lógica algazeliana devia ser a pós-depressão - quando o deprimido já está tão empaturrado de comprimidos que já não reage, mas mantém só um sorriso imbecil desenhado nos lábios.
Caro Boécio, a tua pergunta é mais importante ainda do que a distinção que se fez. Penso, talvez como tu, que a Melancolia não é histórica, pelo simples motivo de ser o único estado, e repito, o único estado (estive tentado a escrever patologia, e ainda bem que resisti) em que o afectado não vive o tempo como história mas como eternidade.
Caros Alfinete de Dama, Sibila, Anónimo e Arpão agradeço os vossos comentários, especialmente estes últimos, Arpão.
Oh Arpão, eu só o estava a provocar, pois, reparei que não percebeu o meu comentário.
Limitei-me a parafrasear o Algazel... Sem sublinhar, ou até mesmo eliminando, o sentido histórico que ele deu ao post.
Tenho noção que o contexto histórico, social, económico, cultural, politico gera e influencia o aparecimento de novos e/ou diferentes lógicas, valores,costumes, modos de vida blá blá bla e, logo, novos/diferentes desejos, necessidades, perturbaçõe, doenças...
O meu comentário, posso dize-lo, foi emocional, reactivo... Um tiro ao lado, se quiser... Mas, de facto, irrita-me hoje em dia perceber que somos todos tão supostamente "psis", autonomos, livres, incomparaveis, instruidos, consumistas, porno, retro,sofisticados e brilhantes - ,mas não distinguimos a merda da pomada. E nao sabemos, nem queremos estar tristes, mas gostamos muito de nos deprimir.
Não foi grande achega, de facto, mas sabe como é- a democratização da palavra incita-me a escrever, aqui, este comentário solipsista.
:P
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